Ponder While We Wander
This is where we have explored and recorded topics that open our curiosity and find connection to outside spaces. We will also connect with others who inspire us and walk new paths literally and figuratively. Come listen! ponderwhilewewander.com
Episodes

Dec 15, 2025
Dec 15, 2025
1 hr 21 min
Location: HJ Carroll Park, Chimacum, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Guest: Rev. Aaron Twitchell https://lovewellnj.com/
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
An episode in two parts. In part one, Amber and Natasha talk with Rev. Aaron Twitchell about good goodbyes in his experience with supporting, consulting with, and counseling individuals and families at the end of life. Then Natasha and Amber take the topic out into nature to a park with a stream and other than human nature. We explore if there is such a thing as a good goodbye and if there is, what can help support that. And we take a moment to allow interaction with nature to enhance our understanding and connection to goodbyes.
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Episode Resources
Links:
https://jeffersoncountywa.myrec.com/info/dept/details.aspx?DeptInfoID=566
https://lovewellnj.com/

Dec 1, 2025
Dec 1, 2025
36 min
Location: Kah Tai Lagoon, Port Townsend, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa talk and walk around the Kah Tai Lagoon with deer, herons, eagles, and other than human nature to discuss what the Polycrisis. They help us see through a lens of interconnectedness and discuss how to build a social, emotional, and spiritual first aid kit in managing the predicaments we find ourselves in.
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Episode Resources
Links:
https://cityofpt.us/parksrec/page/kah-tai-lagoon-nature-park
https://polycrisis.org/lessons/what-does-the-term-polycrisis-mean/
https://commonslibrary.org/learn-from-joanna-macy/
https://www.admiraltyaudubon.org/kah-tai-nature-park-updates

Nov 15, 2025
Nov 15, 2025
49 min
Location: Arroyo Seco, Pasadena, CA, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Amber and Natasha explore the challenges and human connection to the universal experience of grief. They touch on the different types of grief, how we grieve, and why it is important to acknowledge it when it shows up. Our relationship with nature can provide ways of incorporating ritual and meaning-making into ways of holding and processing grief instead of disconnecting from it all together.
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Episode Resources
Links:
https://gabrielinotribe.org/
https://www.cityofpasadena.net/parks-and-rec/arroyo-seco/
https://www.ekrfoundation.org/5-stages-of-grief/change-curve/
https://grief.com/
https://cac.org/daily-meditations/the-work-of-grief-and-love/
https://www.priyaparker.com/art-of-gathering-newsletter/grieve-together-now
https://www.kintsugigrief.com/resources

Nov 1, 2025
Nov 1, 2025
27 min
Location: Captain Whidbey, Whidbey Island, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Natasha and Amber travel to a magical place by ferry and, fueled by a couple cups of coffee, ponder the significance of coffee. They explore the ritual and magic of connecting over a warm beverage. Can a cup of coffee connect us to ourselves, loved ones, strangers, the whole world? Grab a beverage of your choice and join us.
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Episode Resources
Links:
https://www.captainwhidbey.com/
https://www.ebeysreserve.com/history-culture
https://www.islandhistory.org/our-story
https://michaelpollan.com/books/caffeine-how-coffee-and-tea-created-the-modern-world/
“Just the other day, I was in my neighborhood Starbucks, waiting for the post office to open. I was enjoying a chocolatey cafe mocha when it occurred to me that to drink a mocha is to gulp down the entire history of the New World. From the Spanish exportation of Aztec cacao, and the Dutch invention of the chemical process for making cocoa, on down to the capitalist empire of Hershey, PA, and the lifestyle marketing of Seattle's Starbucks, the modern mocha is a bittersweet concoction of imperialism, genocide, invention, and consumerism served with whipped cream on top.”
― Sarah Vowell
https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Sarah-Vowell/1558688
“I hope there are days when your coffee tastes like magic, your playlist makes you dance, strangers make you smile, and the mighty sky touches your soul. I hope there are days when you fall in love with being alive”
– Brooke Hampton
https://www.barefootfive.com/barefoot-me

Oct 15, 2025
Oct 15, 2025
26 min
Location: Discovery Bay, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Come see how noticing our discomfort can invite us into deeper connection with nature as we ponder by the shore where birds, seals, and other than human nature join us.
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A soothing podcast for trying times.
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https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
Links:
https://silvotherapy.co.uk/about-forest-healing
http://www.tribalmuseum.jamestowntribe.org/

Oct 1, 2025
Oct 1, 2025
31 min
Location: Fort Flagler Historical State Park, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Natasha and Amber visit a place where the ocean meets forest to tune into birds as a way of intentionally paying attention and deepening how we make meaning in our lives. Come listen to the topic and the birds!
Explore more about Ponder While We Wander
A soothing podcast for trying times.
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https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
Links:
http://www.tribalmuseum.jamestowntribe.org/
https://amytan.net/backyard-bird-chronicles
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31932836-mozart-s-starling
https://parks.wa.gov/find-parks/state-parks/fort-flagler-historical-state-park

Sep 15, 2025
Sep 15, 2025
37 min
Location: Price Sculpture Forest, Whidbey Island, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Natasha and Amber amble along in the Price Sculpture Forest on Whidbey Island, Washington, USA and explore creativity as an important force for individuals and humanity as a whole. If you are looking for an invitation or support to sink into your creativity, you’ll definitely want to listen to this episode!
Explore more about Ponder While We Wander
A soothing podcast for trying times.
https://ponderwhilewewander.com/
https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
Links:
https://sculptureforest.org/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-the-right-words/202506/creativity-is-not-a-luxury
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/can_empathy_help_you_be_more_creative
https://historicwhidbey.org/whidbey-island-history
https://www.haydentimm.com/

Sep 1, 2025
Sep 1, 2025
28 min
Location: Penn Cove, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Rest is important, so why is it so hard? Amber and Natasha discuss some of the messages and individual and collective challenges to getting rest and give some examples of nature that invite us to take a deeper perspective to rest.
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Episode Resources Links:
https://allpoetry.com/poem/15374223-Wild-geese-by-Mary-J-Oliver
https://salish-current.org/2024/11/20/orcas-display-uncanny-behavior-in-historic-penn-cove-visit/
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42771901-how-to-do-nothing
https://historicwhidbey.org/whidbey-island-history

Aug 15, 2025
Aug 15, 2025
37 min
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Location: Ft Townsend, Port Townsend, WA
Come walk with us while we explore the “love of life” humans have with natural environments. Amber and Natasha share ways in which this enhances our lives and can be integrated into everyday living. We find some banana slugs, evidence of other animals around, and breathe in the forest air, and you’re invited to come along!
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https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
“They travel long distances to stroll along the seashore, for reasons they can't put into words.”
― Edward O. Wilson
Episode Resource Links:
https://www.childrenandnature.org/
https://natureconnectionguide.com/shop-base/forest-bathing-how-trees-can-help-you/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6143402/
https://sdbg.org/shinrin-yoku-connecting-people-to-nature-through-the-art-of-forest-bathing/
https://waparks.org/parks/fort-townsend/
https://parks.wa.gov/about/news-center/field-guide-blog/fort-townsend-historical-state-park-history
https://www.nrdc.org/bio/maria-mccain/bringing-outdoors-benefits-biophilia
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/biophilia

Aug 1, 2025
Aug 1, 2025
30 min
Schmitz Preserve Park
Seattle, WA- USA
Is it time for a relationship check-in with nature?
Have you thought about your relationship with the outside world lately? What happens when we shift from inside to outside? What if our connection with nature was more relational than transactional? We explore this and more as we walk a muddy trail in Seattle, WA- USA.
Explore more about Ponder While We Wander
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https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
Links:
https://natureconnection.guide/
https://earth.org/human-connection-with-nature/
https://greenseattle.org/about-us/land-acknowledgement/
https://theunpluggedclub.com/relationship-with-nature/
https://www.seattle.gov/parks/allparks/schmitz-preserve-park
https://mohai.org/blog/2010/mohai-minute-schmitz-park/
https://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/schmitz-preserve-park





