Episodes

3 hours ago
3 hours ago
Location: Fort Flagler Historical State Park, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Natasha and Amber visit a place where the ocean meets forest to tune into birds as a way of intentionally paying attention and deepening how we make meaning in our lives. Come listen to the topic and the birds!
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A soothing podcast for trying times.
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Episode Resources
Links:
http://www.tribalmuseum.jamestowntribe.org/
https://amytan.net/backyard-bird-chronicles
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31932836-mozart-s-starling
https://parks.wa.gov/find-parks/state-parks/fort-flagler-historical-state-park

Monday Sep 15, 2025
Monday Sep 15, 2025
Location: Price Sculpture Forest, Whidbey Island, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Natasha and Amber amble along in the Price Sculpture Forest on Whidbey Island, Washington, USA and explore creativity as an important force for individuals and humanity as a whole. If you are looking for an invitation or support to sink into your creativity, you’ll definitely want to listen to this episode!
Explore more about Ponder While We Wander
A soothing podcast for trying times.
https://ponderwhilewewander.com/
https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
Links:
https://sculptureforest.org/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/finding-the-right-words/202506/creativity-is-not-a-luxury
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/can_empathy_help_you_be_more_creative
https://historicwhidbey.org/whidbey-island-history
https://www.haydentimm.com/

Monday Sep 01, 2025
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Location: Penn Cove, Washington, USA
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Edited: https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
Rest is important, so why is it so hard? Amber and Natasha discuss some of the messages and individual and collective challenges to getting rest and give some examples of nature that invite us to take a deeper perspective to rest.
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Episode Resources Links:
https://allpoetry.com/poem/15374223-Wild-geese-by-Mary-J-Oliver
https://salish-current.org/2024/11/20/orcas-display-uncanny-behavior-in-historic-penn-cove-visit/
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42771901-how-to-do-nothing
https://historicwhidbey.org/whidbey-island-history

Friday Aug 15, 2025
Friday Aug 15, 2025
Hosts: Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa
Location: Ft Townsend, Port Townsend, WA
Come walk with us while we explore the “love of life” humans have with natural environments. Amber and Natasha share ways in which this enhances our lives and can be integrated into everyday living. We find some banana slugs, evidence of other animals around, and breathe in the forest air, and you’re invited to come along!
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“They travel long distances to stroll along the seashore, for reasons they can't put into words.”
― Edward O. Wilson
Episode Resource Links:
https://www.childrenandnature.org/
https://natureconnectionguide.com/shop-base/forest-bathing-how-trees-can-help-you/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6143402/
https://sdbg.org/shinrin-yoku-connecting-people-to-nature-through-the-art-of-forest-bathing/
https://waparks.org/parks/fort-townsend/
https://parks.wa.gov/about/news-center/field-guide-blog/fort-townsend-historical-state-park-history
https://www.nrdc.org/bio/maria-mccain/bringing-outdoors-benefits-biophilia
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/biophilia

Friday Aug 01, 2025
Friday Aug 01, 2025
Schmitz Preserve Park
Seattle, WA- USA
Is it time for a relationship check-in with nature?
Have you thought about your relationship with the outside world lately? What happens when we shift from inside to outside? What if our connection with nature was more relational than transactional? We explore this and more as we walk a muddy trail in Seattle, WA- USA.
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Episode Resources
Links:
https://natureconnection.guide/
https://earth.org/human-connection-with-nature/
https://greenseattle.org/about-us/land-acknowledgement/
https://theunpluggedclub.com/relationship-with-nature/
https://www.seattle.gov/parks/allparks/schmitz-preserve-park
https://mohai.org/blog/2010/mohai-minute-schmitz-park/
https://www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/schmitz-preserve-park

Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Tuesday Jul 15, 2025
Denny Park
Seattle, WA- USA
Join us for a discussion where we explore what labyrinths are, how you can walk them, and how walking them can be an important contemplative practice for our times.
https://labyrinthlocator.org/labyrinth/denny-park/440/
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https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
https://labyrinthlocator.org/
https://labyrinthsociety.org/
https://veriditas.org/
https://www.contemplativelife.org/practice/the-center-for-contemplative-mind-in-society/all/teaching-learning
https://www.contemplativelife.org/practice/labyrinth/all/body-movement

Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Tuesday Jul 01, 2025
Seattle, Washington-USA
Discovery Park
We explore the topic of how we do hard things as we launch our discussion from an article of a study about social support and our perception of how steep a hill can be. There are also some surprise raccoons. Come explore if it matters who you’re standing next to or not when we do hard things!
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https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3291107/

Sunday Jun 15, 2025
Sunday Jun 15, 2025
Seattle, Washington-USA
Discovery Park
Jumping off of the work of Dr. Vaughan Wilkins and the field of applied Ecopsychology, Amber Martin and Natasha Morisawa explore the theme of Enculturated Zoochosis. Metaphors applicable to living in modernity and the challenges we may be having are discussed while observing some of the urban wildlife of Discovery Park in Seattle, WA. Could we be experiencing collective trauma? If so, what are the symptoms and what are the problems? And how might we begin to address these?
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https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Episode Resources
https://www.vaughanwilkins.com/thesis
https://www.seattle.gov/x63689
https://unitedindians.org/

Sunday Jun 01, 2025
Sunday Jun 01, 2025
Welcome to Ponder While We Wander, a container for invitations and inspiration for connection to ourselves, others, and nature. This video gives you an introduction to us, how we got here, some of our hopes, and an introduction to the podcast Ponder While We Wander.
This is a project of love from two friends who happen to be therapists, and we’re looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Thank you for listening,
Natasha Morisawa and Amber Martin
Find more information here: https://ponderwhilewewander.com/
Substack: https://ponderwhilewewander.substack.com/
Special thanks to:
Logan Bell
Ethan Bell
Eve Hellebrand
https://www.studiosymbiotic.com/
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